1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 I 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Want you out of my house 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,000 I don't want my grandson exposed to you 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,680 You remember that lady you told Nana about that you saw in your room 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,760 She was so bad lady and I don't want her 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:32,240 I don't want my grandson to ever have to fear coming into this house 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,920 What do you want with the people living here? 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:42,760 We don't plan on going anywhere if you're up to no good and you're here to scare we're gonna find you 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,320 And we're gonna kick you out 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,400 My name is Ryan and I'm a paranormal investigator 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,280 When I was a kid my experiences with the supernatural terrified me that I've been searching for answers ever since 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,440 When I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,640 So I founded the paranormal research society dedicated to helping those who were haunted like I was 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,400 We are students 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,400 We are seekers 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,520 And sometimes we're warriors 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,160 And each time we help someone I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,480 This is paranormal state 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,480 We're gonna have a briefing at the bar 20 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Hi there 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,280 How you doing folks? 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,280 Not too bad 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,720 Have you guys looked at the case notes yet? No 24 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:37,320 Clients names are Cheryl and Bill 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,120 They live in an old house that used to be a doctor's office 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,000 They did a lot of remodeling they got in their kitchen the upstairs bathroom took out the old stairwell 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,920 They have a grandchild who says that he was talking to some woman in his room 28 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,480 He's only a few years old 29 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Remember that lady you told Nana about 30 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,680 That you saw in your room she had monster hair she had monster hair yes 31 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Was she a nice lady? No? No? 32 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,000 She was a bad lady and I don't want her 33 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,520 They've seen a couple of apparitions 34 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,040 One is the woman that Adam sees and the other is a gray man. She was looking at her reflection 35 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,960 She saw a tall gray man behind her last Christmas 36 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,720 She was on a stool and she was doing something and some grossly invisible person whispered into her ear 37 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Why are you doing that? She turned around there's no one there 38 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,920 There's a lot of banging sounds and her husband Bill is not a believer and they don't want to experience stuff anymore 39 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Pretty much everyone's afraid to stay in that house, especially Cheryl's grandson 40 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:56,640 This is the house my kind of house 41 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Hi, hey Cheryl 42 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Yes nice to meet you 43 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Wow 44 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:11,280 Want me to start giving you the tour now? Okay in the kitchen here above us is the maids old room and 45 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:17,240 We hear noises up there on a regular basis this room in here and that back room 46 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,600 Usional owners the doctor and his wife his waiting room and his exam room office 47 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,640 What what construction did you start or work on the most? 48 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:31,280 I've been working on this thing for about five years the original house see the size of this basement 49 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,760 Yep straight up was the original house from the 1800s everything else's additions 50 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,200 This is the area up here where we have 51 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:45,400 99% of the problems this is my grandson's room before this was Adams room a lady 52 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,400 But used to live here gave birth in this room apparently and I guess she died shortly after childbirth 53 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,520 And she hemorrhaged to death or something and he doesn't like sleeping in this room 54 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,680 Quick director's note we uncovered an important piece of information 55 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Apparently a woman died during childbirth and what is now Adams room when did you first start to experience anything unusual? 56 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,120 I had a dream before we moved here about this woman that was in the bedroom 57 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,760 And I kept saying to Diane you know 58 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,640 It's like her name from the way she looked in my dream her name should be Martha or Emma 59 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,040 And what about Adam your grandson he's experienced a woman talking to him 60 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,720 What did she look like? 61 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Like 62 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,240 What's monster hair red red hair 63 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,600 Red monster 64 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Monster hair he told me Nana a lady came and I said where was the lady and he said in his room 65 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,400 What about the voice that you heard? Why are you doing that? 66 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:58,360 I was changing curtains and went to put the curtain rod up and then looked up and saw a gray 67 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Figure of a man a hat 68 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,840 That was high and from like right behind my ear 69 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:09,040 It sounded either like what are you doing or why are you doing that? 70 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,160 It almost sounded like a gravelly kind of whisper 71 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,840 I that's the only way I can explain it and that scared the hell out of me and my daughter Diane 72 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,460 Always said it's like an old man with a pipe is watching her hmm 73 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,040 How is bill treated all of this? 74 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,520 What do you say to somebody that that says well, I just saw this 75 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,760 I've never been in the situation before so I don't know what to say 76 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:45,540 It's not that I'm not a non-believer people believe what they see in here. It's just nothing has happened to me 77 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,160 To be honest with you 78 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,920 It doesn't bother me with a house this old with a doctor's office 79 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,840 I can almost guarantee you more than one person had passed away in this house to me 80 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,320 It's gonna be fine and I hate to say it. She's just gonna have to either deal with it or 81 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,920 Find out what to do about it 82 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,680 He more or less takes it with a grain of salt, you know because he didn't see it himself 83 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,480 He's that kind of a person. What would you like to see out of all of this? 84 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:18,280 I don't want my grandson to ever have to fear coming into this house and being comfortable in this house 85 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,540 We would like to spend the night that would be great try to find out what's going on 86 00:06:22,660 --> 00:06:29,900 Okay, we also have a thermal camera it picks up what the human eye can't there been times where investors have used it 87 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:34,560 And they saw something else there and no one could see like an outline of a person because of the temperature 88 00:06:34,740 --> 00:06:36,740 Hopefully we'll catch what's here 89 00:06:37,620 --> 00:06:41,540 We just concluded preliminary interviews with the family as a precaution 90 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:46,340 I've asked them to take Adam to a relatives house across town before we begin our preparation for dead time 91 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:48,860 I'm sorry Adam. You'll be fine 92 00:06:53,220 --> 00:07:02,260 What's we're doing with this maybe closer to this doorway just hit the same button just keep your hand on this button 93 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,460 Hey Josh. Yeah, I have a 94 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:12,000 Alrighty are we ready to go? What do you think? Let's go for a gnocchi tear it up 95 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:21,220 Dead time 3 a.m. All electronic devices are turned off in order to rule out interference with their audio and thermal equipment 96 00:07:22,540 --> 00:07:26,540 Try to imagine a white light coming from the center and just protecting us 97 00:07:29,580 --> 00:07:36,380 Talking to whomever is listening and this asking you to come forward now we'd like to communicate with you 98 00:07:37,420 --> 00:07:39,420 We're willing to listen 99 00:07:45,980 --> 00:07:47,980 Is that you 100 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:51,620 Just that little shuffling noise 101 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:54,940 Oh 102 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:58,460 Where are you 103 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:04,620 What do you want with the people living here? 104 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:16,020 The thermal cam just went out. That's weird. It was fully charged and now it's back on 105 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:23,940 Well, you leave this place will you go away? We do not want you here any longer. You need to move on 106 00:08:27,860 --> 00:08:32,900 It's got chills the temperature on the thermal cam is dropping 107 00:08:34,660 --> 00:08:37,680 If you are here listening give us a sign of your presence 108 00:08:43,260 --> 00:08:45,260 Okay, we're just gonna 109 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:48,420 We 110 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:56,500 Experience some unique activity during our first dead time the thermal cam picked up cold spots around the time we attempted spirit communication 111 00:08:56,860 --> 00:08:59,780 And shut down completely during peak activity 112 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:04,900 Although the evidence isn't definitive cold spots have been associated with the supernatural since ancient Greek times 113 00:09:06,660 --> 00:09:10,180 Day two although I'm not sure if we're dealing with the paranormal 114 00:09:10,180 --> 00:09:15,380 I do believe that it has caused some emotional strains between Cheryl and Bill so I've asked Jamie are 115 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:17,740 Consulting counselor to sit down with a couple 116 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:25,980 So it kind of seems like you're having more of the experiences in the home than you belt I've 117 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:28,060 never 118 00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:30,060 Personally had experience you don't 119 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:33,660 How do you feel about the fact that she feels that? 120 00:09:34,220 --> 00:09:40,780 He usually passes it off as something else. He doesn't believe like I get kind of feeling sometimes 121 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:44,580 I believe that you get them. I just know I know but 122 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:51,740 Unless you've experienced it. That's what I would like to stop happening. Okay, so once she tells me about things 123 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:55,660 I guess she feels like I'm not agreeing or not on her side 124 00:09:57,740 --> 00:10:03,580 Well, the look I get every once in a while is like well you look at me like you're crazy if you didn't see that 125 00:10:03,580 --> 00:10:08,820 Sometimes in a relationship with two people. There's someone who feels like they always want to fix things 126 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:11,860 Which is kind of you. Oh, I've been that way since the 127 00:10:12,020 --> 00:10:13,860 I 128 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:16,260 Is the man we don't expect you to fix everything 129 00:10:17,020 --> 00:10:21,780 Sometimes just being there and listening and saying, you know, I don't understand what you're experiencing now 130 00:10:21,780 --> 00:10:24,620 I'm really sorry that you're experiencing that 131 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:30,900 Now that we've helped Cheryl and Bill open up a dialogue about their differences 132 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:34,980 I think it's time to return to the case and see what may be causing the activity 133 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:40,680 I've decided to interview the bartender across the street to see if he knows anything more about the family that used to live in the house 134 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Do you know of anybody in the old house in the corner over there? 135 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,860 The road is probably left there in the late 50s Dr. Rhodes 136 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,400 He was still practicing for a few years up until the early 50s and 137 00:10:54,200 --> 00:11:00,080 And that was it never seen him after that. Do you know if there are any relatives still in the area? 138 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Yeah 139 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Nothing like good old-fashioned detective work the bartender put me in touch with Meg Rose the granddaughter of the former owners of the house 140 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:14,320 Over the phone. I requested that she come by and speak with the family. I 141 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Know there's some pictures in here 142 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,600 That's the lady in the house. Is that who you saw? Yes. This is my grandmother 143 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,600 Now I never met her. She's the one that died in childbirth. Oh 144 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,360 You're kidding 145 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,440 That's strange. I had a dream about this woman that was in 146 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:45,880 Bedroom and I kept saying you know from the way she looked in my dream her name should be Martha or Emma 147 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Now Meg with Emma. Did she have a red hair? Yes. Oh, you're kidding that explains a lot 148 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,840 Do you know of anybody else that passed away in the house? 149 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Well my grandfather Alfred he died in the hallway and that's the same one who was the doctor. Yeah 150 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:13,560 Would you like to see some pictures? Yeah, this is my grandfather Alfred Lawrence Rhodes. Oh, wow 151 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Yeah, it's just the only feeling I get when I look at this and 152 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:28,880 Did he happen to have a gray suit with a gray hat? Yes, and he smoked a pipe 153 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Okay, my daughter Diane has continuously said an old man with a pipe. Wow 154 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Upstairs is watching her 155 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:47,520 This is Alfred when he was older smoking the pipe and he spoke with a deep 156 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Bravley voice like this 157 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Okay, I'm getting choked up. I'm sorry 158 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:00,920 I've had experiences in the house where it was like somebody came behind me with that kind of a voice and 159 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:06,840 Said something like what are you doing or why are you doing it was very angry? 160 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,720 And 161 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,720 It startled the hell out of me 162 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:14,680 The meeting with Meg went better than anticipated 163 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:21,120 She confirmed almost all the information that Cheryl's given us we now have names to go with our spirits 164 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Alfred and Emma Rhodes the former owners of the house 165 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Next we'll show the photos of Alfred to Cheryl's daughter Diane for further confirmation 166 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Remember what you used to feel like upstairs the pipe. That's why I wanted to see how you would react 167 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Yeah, he used to smoke a pipe in there makes it your feelings that this is the guy 168 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:48,120 Yeah, I don't doubt as soon as she kind of tried to talk like him. It scared the crap out of me 169 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,360 Yeah, I think it's because of all the remodeling 170 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Possibly it's almost like he's annoyed with us for changing his house 171 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Well, usually a lot of times be modeling does it because they're here 172 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:05,280 They don't realize where they are other than that they're in a place that they're comfortable in right and what we could do tonight 173 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,200 Is try to see if we can talk to him and see why he's here? 174 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,960 Sometimes there's a connection if you have a family member like Meg present. Yeah, I agree 175 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,840 Now that we feel confident that the spirits may be Alfred and Emma Rhodes 176 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,800 We will do dead time again to try to speak to them directly 177 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Once more we will be using the thermal imaging camera that gave us interesting results during the first dead time. All right commence dead time 178 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,760 We're here to speak to whomever is listening in this house 179 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Now we wait 180 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:50,200 If there is an Alfred we'd like to give you this opportunity to speak with us 181 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:56,480 Alfred, I'm looking at your picture if you're here. Can you show us that you're here somehow? 182 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Meg you're related to Alfred. Do you want to try and ask something? Are you here? 183 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,320 Can you make some kind of sign that you're here? 184 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Oh my god, you smell the tobacco smoke. You do? Yeah, I did 185 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Is that your pipe I'm smelling? Can you make some sort of sound? 186 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Do you hear that? Yeah, thud 187 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,040 Are you angry with me because I'm in your house 188 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:44,000 There's noises over there. You said most of the activity happens on the second floor 189 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,160 So do you want to try there? Sure. All right, Sergi. We're moving dead time 190 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Whoever made the banging sound can you do it again? 191 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,520 Did you guys just feel a chill? Yeah, it's getting cool right now. I feel cool 192 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,120 Cheryl's the front of me thermal makeup 70. I'm shivering right now 193 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,000 68, 67. So temperature is dropping 194 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Do you want to leave this house? 195 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,600 Well what I saw I heard a no 196 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Do you hear that could you please do that sound again? 197 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:41,600 I heard that oh man, wait, it's still going hey Ryan over 198 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Did you yeah, what's that over? 199 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Did you guys hear a sound up there? 200 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Yes, we did. Can you give me a flashlight up? 201 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,320 He said he heard a sound coming from up here and it went down into the patient room downstairs. Whoa 202 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Oh 203 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,920 When I hear to hurt you we're not trying to vade your space 204 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Do you see anything? 205 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,320 That's that 206 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Did you guys see that Serge did you get anything on your end? 207 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:41,120 Alfred I know that it's you it's okay to go on the house is safe 208 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,480 You've protected it and now you can move on 209 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 We're sure you can hear us 210 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,440 No, we think you're trying to communicate with us. We're trying to listen 211 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,560 We're gonna find you and we're gonna kick you out 212 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:17,680 Dead time is over. I'm not sure yet how to quantify the events we form a layman's house blessing just in case 213 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,720 This will be our best chance at convincing the spirit to move on this house 214 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:29,200 Isn't how you saw it when you were alive or when you lived here. This is a new house Cheryl and Bill remodeled 215 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Cheryl's not leaving 216 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:39,120 Do not frighten them when they are here. They are now a part of the history of this house 217 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:46,680 I also pray that nothing harmful enters this room. The house is part of God and Adam is a child of God 218 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:49,120 Please give them peace 219 00:18:49,120 --> 00:19:05,720 Day 3 final day of our investigation last night's dead time was very active 220 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:13,120 But the unexplained noises and thermal camera readings will have to be taken back to Penn State to be analyzed before we can draw any permanent conclusions 221 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,920 This morning I'm sitting down with the family one last time to see if our presence and Jamie's counseling 222 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,480 Have at least opened up the lines of communication between Cheryl and Bill 223 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:31,720 I mean I I know I can handle it, you know, it's just I feel better with a little bit of an acknowledgement that 224 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:39,960 Diane and I experienced the same things and it's been from the very beginning when we moved in here and having a 225 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,120 Team like you come in did help me 226 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,440 Feel better and we experienced things too, right now 227 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,280 We can't explain and hopefully there'll be a change 228 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520 You know hopefully 229 00:19:53,680 --> 00:20:00,720 If not, I'm okay with that too, you know, I do what I got to do. We don't plan on going anywhere, right? 230 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,840 No, like I said after all the work I do in this place. Yeah, I die you're attached. I ain't leaving 231 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,240 That's true 30 40 years down the road. There'll be another team in here and they'll be telling me to get out 232 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Hard time because I know all the hiding places 233 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:28,080 This is the closing director's log for case file two zero zero six dot twelve dot twenty nine F 234 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:35,040 We've returned to check on Cheryl and her family and determined that it is now safe to bring Adam back into the house 235 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Let's go in here and get some toys. I think seeing him return was the highlight of the investigation for me 236 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,960 I truly hope he never has a reason to leave again 237 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,400 As I told Cheryl, I think there's something here that can't be explained 238 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:57,400 But she said that just having people in the house who believed her story and we're willing to listen and investigate 239 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:03,640 Put her more at ease and that makes me happy. Can you make me some tea then? I don't have this sugar 240 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,840 I'm very confident that we've helped to make a positive change in this family 241 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,480 You